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(Date Posted:12/29/2005 18:26:08)

I want to clarify my last post. O.K., I understand what Skreetpreacha says about it being harder during marriage to avoid sexual temptation. I understand that. I also understand what Tex-iz is saying on the subject too. I also know that TV networks will edit interviews and broadcast what they want (but didn't Kirk know that too - of course he did).However, My question again is:WHY DID KIRK FRANKLIN THINK THAT GOING ON OPRAH IN FRONT OF 10,000,000 WOMEN AND CONFESSING TO BEING A: (SEXUAL DEVIANT); (A PERVERT); AND AN (OBSESSED PORNOGRAPHER), THROUGHOUT HIS MARRIAGE AND EVEN UP TO TODAY, WAS A GOOD IDEA? OPRAH IS NOT A CHRISTIAN. OPRAH IS A TRANSCENDALIST, LIKE RUSSELL SIMMONS,and most people of wealth.THEY BELIEVE IN GOD, MEDITATE AND PRACTICE YOGA BUT DO NOT BELIEVE IN OR FOLLOW CHRIST. It's the new wave religion and goes back to scripture again, "that a rich man has the odds of making it to heaven as a camel through th eye of a needle".SO AGAIN, WHAT CAUSED KIRK TO HAVE A MOMENT OF INSANITY AND THINKING THAT RUNNING TOA NON-CHRISTIAN TO CONFESS HIS SINSWOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HIM? WAS HE TRYING TO SELL RECORDS?Am I missing something here? That's all I want to know. What do ya'll think about this? Is Kirk crazy? Is he just plain dumb?; or Is he sick?; or isjust a human? or saw 10,000,000 women and wanted to sell records?Again, if you reply to this message, I only want to know the answer to the question above and I don't care about his music and I don't care about what any other writers or tv people said. "Confessing to Non-Christians Sins." Why would someone do that? I want to learn from this mistake,so if anyone has any thoughts about this subject please share them with me and maybe Kirk Franklin himself will reply and give some reflections as to what he was thinking.TT
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(Date Posted:12/29/2005 19:07:09)

well i dunno why truth.but i will tell you this.not every millionaire has that belief system.im starting to think that a lot of christians think multi-millionaires are sin filled and will never goto heaven.thats might seem off but ive been reading some of stuff on this board and alot of yall seem scared to be rich.thats kinda messed up in my opinion.
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(Date Posted:12/29/2005 19:13:30)

oh and by the way.i didnt see the message that "skreet" had but i will tell you this.its easy for him to say stuff like "its harder to avoid sexual temptation after marriage".the man is married.hes having sex.hes not going through the stuff that single christians go through.and im sure he might object to that but WHATEVER......
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(Date Posted:12/29/2005 20:09:30)

Thanks Tex-Iz. Prayerfully, you and Skreet will move past that issue. I know ya'll are in continuous disagreement over the marriage and sex issue. Yes, you are right, I don't believe that having money is evil.


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(Date Posted:12/29/2005 21:04:05)

i aint finna waste my time defending kirk again, because i had good points on why the Oprah show painted him in a wrong light.... and for the last time Tex, lol, do you think i was BORN married!? LOL, i was a "single Christian" for a long time! lol. and since i've been where you havent (marriage), i have more experience to testify on the issue, that in most cases, lust becomes much MORE prevalant AFTER marriage, not before. God bless
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(Date Posted:12/30/2005 04:02:03)

well skreet.atleast u have a wife to lust over.its pretty obvious me and you are never gonna agree on that.
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(Date Posted:12/30/2005 17:01:41)


The Bishop's gonna throw his 2 cents in...


First, since none of us is Kirk Franklin, we cannot know why he did what he did.  Personally, I think (Bishops Note:  I'm using the word "I think" because I don't know so therefore it is opinion) he did it to air it our nationwide and the world over.  Why?  Think about it this way.  Kirk became a major label artist awhile back. He's not an indie artist but a major artist.  This means that he's up there with the likes of Jay Z, Kanye West, Gwen Stefani, Coldplay.  Starting to get the picture?   The higher you get on the ladder, the more accountable you are for your actions.  That's just by the world's standards.  We as Christians are held to an even higher acount and thus are held even more responsible for our actions.  You can't mess up as a major artist and admit it on an indie level. 


This next point is opinion as well.  Why did Brad and Jennifer break up?  Because I think Brad had affairs with Angelina Jolie.  The evidence speaks for itself and now what?  Brad and Angelina are running out kicking it!  Nevertheless, Brad and Jennifer got divorced and it was worldwide news!  They are major icons so it's a major story.  There were newspapers, magazines, and all other types of medium that stated the story and came up with their own thoughts and opinions about what happened.


KIrk, knowing all of this, decided (Bishop's Note:  Being a married man, I also know that his wife has a lot to do with it as well.) that it would be best to go on a show that would tell the world what happened.  That makes good sense.  Why?  Because in front of millions of women, he got to tell his side of the story HIS WAY before anyone else could say otherwise.  The media can't have a field day in this case because he got on national TV and aired out his dirt.  It also makes good business sense.  What gender mostly occupies The Oprah Winfrey Show?  WOMEN!  If record companies that target women and young girls to market their music and put out garbage, how much more of an impact will a man have standing up in front of some of those same women, admitting that he did dirt, repented, and handled it like a man should in doing so?  You start to respect him as a person and as a Child of God!!


Lastly, people need to realize that people are just ordinary people.  We all do dirt, make mistakes, lie, cheat, steal, bear false witness, lust for things and people, and by nature are greedy.  This part is the truth.  Just because someone is a Gospel Artist, Minister, Pastor, or whatever doesn't mean that they won't make mistakes and do dirt.  It's not what one does that makes them foul...it's what they do about it after it's done.  One doensn't become a champion without failing at times.  Remember also that God won't let continued dirt happen without some recourse.  That recourse, in Kirk's case, was mostly him admitting what he did not just in private, but worldwide as well.


I hope this will help everyone!


Just my gold boullion up in dis peesh!!


Shalom


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(Date Posted:12/30/2005 18:14:13)

Thanks Seventh Knight! That's exactly what I needed to read and it all makes sense.


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